So now I can’t spank my child as a form of discipline?
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With Child Protection Services-ready to intervene in a heartbeat- what kind of discipline can we impose onto our children?
No, No, No, bad Mommy. Every mother who has a child age 2 and up, has heard their child say to them in frustration and anger; No, No, Mommy-bad Mommy. I wasn’t expecting it when I first heard it-and I wanted to turn to him and say; “Mommy is so sorry baby, lets go buy a toy, so I can make it up to you.” I didn’t, but I wanted to. Now I know I didn’t do anything wrong when I turned off the TV and told him it was nap time-but what about those moments that every parent has that makes us wonder if we are or are not, Bad Mommy’s and Bad Daddy’s. Things that are apparent when you are in the wrong are circumstances such as; if you are spanking your child with such force, that he/she is left bruised, swollen or bleeding. That is child abuse. With Child Protection Services-ready to intervene in a heartbeat- what kind of discipline can we impose on our children to stress our authority and teach them wrong and right? Now a day, strangers at Wal-Mart will call authorities on you for yelling at your child, for attempting to drag them out of a store, for smacking their hand for hitting their sister. I don’t know about you, but when I was a child-and I was out in a public place with my parents, I can recall a few different occasions my mother, rightfully so, grabbed me by the arm, while I was screaming and dragged my smart mouth all the way to the car, where she smacked my bare butt-threatened my existence (in a loving way of course ) and told me if I didn’t straighten up now, Ill really have something I can cry about. Now a day, I have no doubt that someone would consider this to be child abuse. I am not one of those people. Do I believe that my mother was out of line, not at all? Do I believe at any point in this disciplinary action, she had lost control of her temper, no I don’t. I think I probably had it coming-because I know the things I would try to get away with when I was young.
I have not-nor can I recall my parents ever using a switch, a belt, a spatula or anything else besides a hand to deliver a quick swat to the tush-in order to capture the attention of a misbehaving child whom has no intention of listening to the a thing that you say. I have never beaten my kids. I have never left a mark or a bruise on their rear ends. I haven’t even swatted their little naked baby butts. I never smack their hands or their tushes without various warnings, letting them know if they don’t straighten up and stop what they are doing it's timeout, after timeout-it’s a swat on the butt and a return to timeout. After they are done in time out-I always sit down with them, explain why they got into trouble (repeat my words again ), tell them they need to listen and explain why they need to listen, make them repeat it to me (the best that they can)-and then follow up with an I love you, hug and kiss. I also don’t use that kind of discipline for every little thing that they do to test me. My son has received maybe ½ a dozen swats to the butt, for things like-running away from me down the drive way, and towards the road. Or when he ran with full force into his little sister, body slamming her into the ground. Or when I told him to get off of the kitchen table-four times/removed him from the table those four times// put him in timeout for getting back on the table a fifth time, to turn around as he is standing back on the table with my grandmothers vase in hand, threatening to throw it. I stick to the rule I have set for myself, that the only time they get a (meaning 1) swat on the tush is when they are doing something that they can be harmed-another person can be harmed or something I have gone over and over again, know that they know that what they are doing is wrong, but do it again to test one more time if they can get away with it. I don’t spank my kids for talking back- I talk to them about it and work with them to correct the issue. I don’t spank my kids for messes; I make them help me clean it up-as many times as I have to clean it up.
Kids are Kids-just as they didn’t come with an instruction manual to show us the way to handle things such as discipline-they weren’t given a crash course on boundaries and repercussions while traveling down the birth canal. Give them a break-they are trying to figure things out too. As for the nations obsession with judging how each person deals with their children, the only thing to say is- unless you are the perfect parent and have a manual to start handing out to us that are learning through trial and error-mind your own business unless the kid is being physically harmed (what I mean is-20 minutes later the child is still hurting from a spanking, is left bruised, bleeding or swelling), neglected or mentally abused. No family needs all the nosey neighbors of the world judging them because they swatted their child’s hand for throwing a hot wheel at their sister’s head. My children are happy, healthy, moderately behaved kids. I’m not here to hurt them, I am here to show them the limits of what they can and cannot do, unfortunately they aren’t always willing to sit down and listen to my reasons-so to grab their attention so they know I mean what I am saying, I have a few times swatted their little butts. I love my kids-and I am raising them with all that my parents instilled in me; and I don’t believe that makes me a bad or overly harsh parent.
I believe in spanking your children, but not using corporal punishment as the first line of punishment. I use my better judgment before I discipline in any way. I consider if I am in control of my emotions-making sure that my temper will not be lost. Because my children are young-they don’t get anything more than 1 swat on the butt (which is covered by a diaper and their clothing), my intention is not to hurt them, it is to scare them and capture their attention. And finally- I don’t punish them in any way without talking to them, and let them know why they got into trouble and punished in the first place. Although I am not sure if they understand all of what I am saying, it is the repetition of doing so that I am hoping gets through to them-one of these days they will understand my words. On the same token-every family and every child is different. I have seen some children running around the doctor’s office screaming at the top of their lungs for their mothers to shut-up. You could see in the mother’s eyes frustration and embarrassment. I wonder if that child has been spanked lately? Just this morning-I walked back into my son’s daycare class to see two bigger boys-one on each side of my son, picking on him. One pushed him-and when he fell into the other-the 2nd boy pushed him-as my son was trying to get away from the boys clutching his blanket. Have those two boys (two year olds) been taught right and wrong? I don’t know for sure-but after talking to his teacher-she said their parents don’t spank or believe in disciplining their children.
Advice wise in determining if you should use corporal punishment in your household, make sure your intentions are the right intentions. In my opinion, the right intentions are to teach them boundaries and show them right and wrong and to keep them safe ( I would rather deliver a swat to my child's butt when he is running towards a street with no intention of halting when he arrives there-so he doesn't do it again-than to try and talk to him about it, have him ignore me and do it again, and possibly get hit by a vehicle). The wrong intentions are if you want to inflict pain on your child. Because if you want to have your child left hurting- perhaps you are a Bad Mommy or Bad Daddy and you shouldn't be a parent in the first place. In that case, do yourself and your kids a favor for the future and call CPS on yourself and sign over custody-there are many people out there that want to have the chance to be some child's everything-if you just want to hurt your child-you aren't deserving of them.
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I spanked through clothes and diaper too and it did absolutely no good. I finally spanked my 2 1/2 year old naked and it worked. Sometimes nothing but a smack on the bare butt will work.
Depend on what state you live in, you still can. There are more than 20 states still approve of spanking!
It's abvious jen that you have never experienced physical child abuse before. I have. Trust me it is something that stays with you all your life, and NOTHING can make it go away.
Although CPS may be called for spanking, CPS would likely not intervene unless there was marks or bruising or it was on a vital area of the body (ie... face slaps that left fingertip bruises). Spanking is not illegal and many of the other CPS worker I know spank their own children. I don't personally use spanking, but that's my choice.
This is a very good discussion about spanking. Appropriate spanking is a part of parenting. While it is not for everyone, or even for every child, it is an option. After raising three sons to adulthood who are completely different in personality I have this observation. Some children are more easily led than others. Some ignore everything you tell them, and some listen some of the time. The punishment should suit the crime. My youngest son may have been spanked once or twice in his life and is a well adjusted adult. My middle son got the most spankings and is a very happy well adjusted adult. Personality is key to discipline.
I love this hub. I am a mother of 3 children. I believe in spanking. I remember something my uncle always taught me though, and that is, if you spank a child with your hand, children associate that experience with the parent, however if you utilize say a wooden spoon for a swat, they associate the punishment with that object. My point is they will then resent the object and not the parent. Now I'm not sure how true that is but I do know that it works in my home. Now a swat means something to crab their attention. Pain is not something that needs to be associated with spanking. Sometimes its going to sting a little but that is just discipline. Anyone who utilizes spanking knows that just the swat itself wakes up a child. They immediately wake up when they see my spoon and most of the time I don't even have to use it. I don't believe that every infraction requires a spanking. A warning can sometimes be just what you need. When in a public place I have definately come to fear discipline, even speaking to my children firmly attracts attention. What has happened to this world. Do you guys see how these children are acting nowadays? They have lost all respect for authority. I thank the government and CPS agencies for sticking their nose where it doesn't always belong. Child abuse is now a common word that in some cases is very necessary, however, I feel that a parent who is not correcting a child is committing child abuse. One of the other things that I have noticed is that the older a person is, the more they respect a parent who corrects a child. What does that say for our world today? I think it says we have lost touch with correct parenting methods. I would much rather have my children grow up to be more like some of the elder members of our communities than the younger ones.
I have two sons and thay are as different as day and night, so i've hard to use creative ways to punish them. As far s " spanking " goes my oldest son got many spankings because he was a very stubborn child and got into all kind of trouble, and timeouts did not work on him. Fortunately for him and me, my Mom helped raise him, so i sort of got a break on the punishment angle. With my little one it's a totally diffferent scenario, he is a negotiator, so we talk about his punishments if there is to be any, he has rarely been spanked! I try to talk to him about things concerning him, so usually my tone of voice will let him know wether he's in trouble or not. So for me i would say am for spanking along with timeouts and denying privileges because sometimes one form of punishment mightn't work but a combination would.
What about PARENT abuse?
I know this can be a touchy subject, kudos to you for writing it. I received more than my share of spankings (okay maybe not all I should have), but the point is I continue to believe in the philosophy of being able to discipline your children. I understand the difference between discipline and abuse and do not condone abuse of any form or fashion. But I have two great, well behaved, well adjusted boys so I am stand behind my right to spank.
The funny thing to me is how everyone acts likes things were so much better in the past. How kids were better behaved. I call bullshit. Maybe history lessons are needed.
The spanking subject can be a double edged sword. Defining the line between abuse or not is what the real issue is. There is such a heightened state of sensitivity in terms of this issue. The saddest part of all is that ordinary people who are not abusive are being called out for minor issues like you mentioned such as slapping a child's hand for hitting their sibling and the real abusers are safe and sound in their homes. Unfortunately this shifts the paradigm of control in the household towards the children. This will be the moral dilemma we will see when this generation grows into adulthood. Maybe something to do with your ME Generation Hub.:)
After being spanked as a child - I am 56 - I vowed I would never subject my children to such a useless, and potentially damaging thing. I lost my respect for my parents with the first smack, their love [never mind the pep talk of 'It's over and we love you' - they had just HIT me and actions speak louder than words!].
I don't believe in giving "a quick swat to the tush-in order to capture the attention of a misbehaving child " as what is wrong with capturing a little one's attention with something else!
I watched my Japanese friends with toddlers and small children. When they did something wrong - mummy spoke more quietly... much more quietly ... the child was intrigued and HAD to listen!! It worked really well!!
I know that that 'one swat' to a diaper isn't going to be hurting - but I do not want to be passing on that the hitting is ok, or ok if you are an adult! Personally I think spanking /hitting a child full stop, should be consigned to the waste bin.
I never spanked, and believe me I sometimes wanted to because my children were demanding at time, but I would never hit a defenceless child. My children are now sensitive, loveable and gentle adults!
I sort of agree with Jason ! I bet Fred Flintstone was found to be saying to Wilma 'These kids today are just way out of hand - wasn't like this in our parent's day !!'
I spanked my daughters but for kicking me in the face one night because I told her it was time for bed that she had school in the morning. She was out of control and thought she was in control of when she goes to bed. After getting kicked in the face and having my hair pulled I spanked her but. She had clothes on and I didn't even spank her hard enough to even hurt my hand and could hardly feel it she laughs at me. Next thing I know the next day her going to school I get a call from the school because my daughter told them I beat her, I let them know yes I spanked her but and also explained the reasons why and if they wanted, to see the bruise on the left side of my face they would understand why she was spanked. Schools teach your kids that even a quick spanking, even a light tap to report because of child abuse. I'm sorry but I'm not going to let my children grow up to think that they have no rules, and no consequences for their actions. It's sad that the CPS wants to get involved in every little thing that happens yet, where are they when the children that are being abused mentally & Physically, raped by their father and even mother in some cases. They seem to overlook alot to investigate for so little. Great Hub H.C. Porter.
Your welcome and thanks for the great hubs to read they are very insightful :)
Child protective services has never done anything about child neglect or abuse to my knowledge but it would be about like them if you try to make your child behave. I had a ping pong paddle that hung on the wall that kept mine in line, it only disappeared a couple of times in many years. They discovered there were plenty for me to buy. They really were very well behaved and I know that is why, the same as I was and I will never be sorry I was afraid to be a brat.
Excellent discussion about child discipline. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and experience.
Finally someone who says the truth about this subject.
With two young kids and EVERYTHING that's going on around them, sometimes a pop on the butt is the ONLY attention getter. Thanks for your candidness.
I think you raised some good points in your hub. I would also like to make some for you to consider. Just because we were raised a certain way does that always make it right? We turned out okay but could there be a better way? Sometimes a good spanking IS what it takes but most times there are better ways to get our children to stop and think about their actions and help them be proactive to try to behave better. Most children have impulsive behavior for the simple fact that they can't control their emotions. We as adults need to set the example and keep our cool. Having strategies to deal with their behaviors will enable us to react without having to resort to hitting them when we are mad. When we are angry and spanking out of that anger there is always a chance of taking it too far without that intention. If I tell a child that it's not okay to hit then turn around and hit him every time he misbehaves, what kind of message am I sending him? I completely understand the whole thing about worrying if child protective services gets involved but they are there to protect children and advocate for their rights. I just wrote a hub about discipline vs punishment and if we do our job right as parents, there can be minimal need to ever get to the punishment phase. Don't get me wrong though there are times when a spanking is needed but again as a last resort and never when a parent is angry.
One smack on a clothed bottom works wonders for toddlers and preschoolers. As long as you leave their clothes on and never spank them on the face or private parts it's not abuse.
When my son was smaller,I would tap his legs just to get his attention,just twice. As he grew it was the bottom,again only twice.
Then I moved to the dictionaries.
Yes I would make him stand with a heavy dictionary in each hand for 10 minutes, I had to do that in school for punishment.
Haven't had to do it for a while now,I have no need to attempt to hit a teenager or do I want to.
You are a good mother with common sense. I see giving spankings to my kids in pretty much the same way. I have a couple boys, and my oldest needs something to catch his attention and make him STOP to LISTEN. He can be pretty bad about not wanting to listen to me and my husband both, or being a frequent repeat offender too. My younger son is following in his big brother's footsteps, but is 100 times more defiant and stubborn. I try the subtle approach with him, and speak firm but gently with him, and then proceed from there as needed...Time-Outs, Spankings, Removing a Toy, or Taking Away Privilages... I incorporate all of those along with the necessary spanking, and always let my children know that I love them, and why they are being punished... My two sons are sooo terribly stubborn, their horsing around recently sent the younger one into the emergency room, because they refused to listen for the 100th time not to try to play horsey rides with each other. My oldest caused his younger brother to whack his noggin on the door frame of our closet and gave him a nice goose egg, along with a headache, and sore head for several days. If children don't get disciplined they'd wind up killing themselves because they are doing something stupid, or kill each other doing silly stuff parents constantly have to tell them to STOP doing. If all a kid ever gets is "talked" to as a consequence of doing something wrong and not following the rules, then they are going to think they can do anything they want. Parents should always have different forms of punishment depending on the severity of offense the child has done. Like my little guy has seen someone giving the finger to another person when we were out driving. So now, he thinks this is funny, because I told him not to do it, and that it means something bad/naughty. So I have had to start giving his hand a swat when he thinks it is "funny" for him to repeatedly keep doing this every day. For him, the time outs, the talks, or taking away toys doesn't work when he wants to be a stinker.
Hello, H.C. Porter--I just wanted to stop and tell you that I'm with you on this whole spanking vs. not spanking thing. Each child has a different personality from the next and what works for one might not for the other. I see absolutely nothing wrong with a smack on the butt--especially when it involves keeping your child from running into the street or causing real harm to another by throwing things in anger. I don't believe in abusing children, either, and I think there is a nice, cozy little corner in Hell reserved for child abusers, and molesters. CPS was created for the right reasons, but often respond "out of proper sequence" if you catch my meaning. For example (hypothetical)Here is Ms. Smith being investigated for smacking her daughters hand because she flipped off a little old lady in the grocery store, yet here is Ms. Jones beating her daughter with an electrical cord until she has stopped breathing-because she told her mother "no," and nothing is being done about that. Very sad the way things seem to work out these days.
Anyway, great hub and your insights are spot-on! You sound like one of those women who was born to be a mom.
And as an afterthought: I got my rear-end jacked on several occasions when I was a child--the first time I think was when I used a bad word to my mother. My father really let me have it! (with a razor strop, if memory serves) However, when I looked back not too much later, I realized I deserved it. I did not lose respect for my parents just because they hit me now and then. I think they did a good job with me and I thank God for them every day of my life. Now, do I hit my kids as a mom? Not really. I've never really had to--maybe a couple of times, on the rear, to get their attention. Tough subject, but not overwhelming as long as you are a reasonable adult with reasonable expectations.
Thanks again for the hub! Keep 'em coming! Voted up, useful, awesome and interesting!
3-5 spanks on a bare bottom with your hand isn't abusive. It works well with our kids. I was spanked on the genitals with a wooden spoon for potty accidents. That made me terrified of my mother. I vowed I would never abuse my children and I never had.
No you can't hit your kids. If you have to hit them to teach them right from wrong then you are absolutely useless as a parent. It is not ok ta hit your child. And hitting them on the hand because the child was hitting will send mixed messages. It is perverted to spank a child and parents will take it to far. Be good parents and find other ways. It is lazy parenting and abuse to hit.
poeple used to say that people are abusive but thats not true some needs it look around now a day and what do you see i see kids running around causeing problems for cops and there parents and i always wonder would it be different if there parents spanked them.



























wyanjen 2 years ago
Hi there!
I don't understand why people are so intrusive about subjects like this.
We were all abused so horribly by our own parents? (no!)
I would raise my child exactly how my folks did it. I turned out just fine, so who am I to say they were doing it wrong? It makes no sense to me.
My question about your little one at daycare is not whether the parents of those two boys spank, but rather - where was the teacher to help your little guy out? Hopefully she does not just allow that to happen...
Thanks for the sweet pictures :-) they are adorable
Jen